tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28944274.post8700978296485344252..comments2023-08-10T23:28:30.929-04:00Comments on Til the Last Hemlock Dies: Later Kirby Issues of FANTASTIC FOURJames Robert Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17281049641681225389noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28944274.post-34755105667373934062013-08-06T09:35:04.397-04:002013-08-06T09:35:04.397-04:00Not a chance. Kirby was still bursting with creati...Not a chance. Kirby was still bursting with creativity during this period. He was holding the new ideas for titles he was getting ready to do somewhere other than Marvel. He unleashed the fertile Fourth World series at DC where he was allowed to work without a LEEch attached to his credits.<br /><br />I'm convinced that he really didn't want to hand over any new iconography to Marvel. Most of the villains during the period after the "HIM" debacle (FF 66-67)were run-of-the-mill androids and the older villains coming back for a rematch. Gone was the amazing explosion of creativity from the earlier issues that handed Lee & Goodman an unmatched fortune of intellectual property to steal.<br /><br />James Robert Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281049641681225389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28944274.post-53942851440078898642013-08-06T08:52:53.625-04:002013-08-06T08:52:53.625-04:00Maybe the villians were bland because Kirby was bu...Maybe the villians were bland because Kirby was burned out on his creation, and he didn't have anything new to add.<br /><br />I've heard the creators of successful television series say they start to run out of ideas after 2 years and most later episodes are retreads in some way of past ideas.<br /><br />He had been working on FF for over 5 years by this time. What a creative grind.MarkGelbarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01343075239471716588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28944274.post-86682648297940339642013-08-05T19:42:17.678-04:002013-08-05T19:42:17.678-04:00Although I think that Kirby was consciously trying...Although I think that Kirby was consciously trying not to create any new spectacular characters from which his employer could steal from him, he couldn't help but concoct some interesting figures. Agatha Harkness was classic Kirby.<br /><br />I always noted over the years that Kirby seemed to be going out of his way after the debacle of what Lee did to his story in FF #66-67 that Kirby was trying not to give away too much more of himself while he took stock of his situation with the lying thieves who employed him. Most of the villains from that point to the very end were rather bland by Kirby standards--reappearances of villains he'd already created, or creatures and androids that could hardly be used by someone intent on unfairly exploiting Kirby's vast imagination.<br />James Robert Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281049641681225389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28944274.post-70675813284738191182013-08-05T17:54:50.256-04:002013-08-05T17:54:50.256-04:00That's an interesting idea that Kirby's fu...That's an interesting idea that Kirby's funeral image on the cover of FF #101 was somewhat symbolic that it was over. I never thought much of the return of the Sentry, the Creature nor the Monacle. Only Agatha Harkness showed anything unusual and has stood the test of time. I wonder who came up with her? Kirby? Lee? Black Magic? Simon?<br />Kirk G - The Thrifty Rocketeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787549409999764040noreply@blogger.com